Category: Zone BBS Suggestions and Feedback
Hello, all,
Would it be possible to allow the modification or deletion of board postings? The other day I needed to revise one and couldn't, and now I need to delete one from garage sale and can't.
What do yall think?
Shanda
forget it, it's all ready been talked about in another board on here and it was decided that it would be too confusing if that feature was to be imploment it.
Not sure I'd agree with the ability to delete a topic or post. I think that might lead to confusion.
I think editing of a board post would definitely lead to confusion.
However, I have, for a long time, been a proponent of allowing the original topic starter of a topic to close it. If that were possible, then it might keep embarrassing or ill conceived topics from coming back to the top for further recriminations/embarrassment.
For example, I once posted a rather bad joke in the jokes board, and another member told me about it. Now, when she desires to taunt me in some way, she brings up that topic again and everyone gets another crack at my poor attempt at humor. No big deal, but I sure would like to close that topic if I could.
Just my thoughts.
Bob
I think that CL's are the only ones who can delete posts/topics, and I'd leave that to them.
lol Bob! I agree whole-hartedly with you. Afterall, if my future kids were to read some of the things I've posted, they would know that their mom was never so innocent! *laughs* Will the zone even be alive then?
Michelle
Hi Shanda I agree with you! I'd love to get rid or even edit some of my post!
We can't ever take back what we've said verbally, so why be able to take back what we've said in writing?
Bob, I'd love to know what that post is you want to take back so I could taunt you with it as well.
And yeah, while there are some posts I'd like to take back, I can definitely see the point that the admin can't just let every zoner go in and delete posts on a whim. This place would be way too confusing if that were allowed.
I've seen sites that allow users to delete/edit their own posts, and it seems to work quite well. Then again, those sites aren't the zone. lol.
I don't see the confusion, as there wouldn't need to be any kind of notification present. For edited posts, the revisions would speak for themselves. Deleted posts would simply be gone.
Now, I haven't delved into the coding aspect, but there it is in theory, as I see it.
I agree with the idea of starters of topicks to be able to lock them. That would be nice.
Also i think it would be good if we could delete posts as long as it isn't a reply after the post we want to edit or delete. If there is it would be confusing because the reply wouldn't make sence.
But the problem with the ability to edit or delete posts if there is no reply is if somebody try to reply at the same time when somebody tries to edit something or if they are quick enough to reply anyway.
Maybe at least it would be nice if users can choose if topicks they created could be available to non members or not.
That feature would most certainly cause vulnerabilities.
i agree with nikos, locking would be cool. as for editing, just go to preview post
Hello, guys,
Didn't realize it had been brought up before, or I wouldn't ahve wasted the time doing it again.
In garage ssale, I posted something which I later needed to edit so I had to redo the whole post. THen I posted something else yesterday that I wish I could've deleted/closed/locked, something. But never mind, it was only a suggestion.
Thanks to those that replied
Shanda
I agree with Post 10 on the idea of being able to delete a topic if there are no replies to it. Or maybe if you wanted to delete a topic with more than one post, it should only be available to specific boards. I'm mainly thinking the Garage sale board specifically for this, since people mainly post things to sell or look for, and once they have a deal with someone or find what they need, there's not much point to still having that topic at all. As for editing, (especially if there is more than one post), I agree with others that it would really make things confusing for the readers. Anyway, we have the Preview Post feature, and if someone wants to late change something they said, they can either just post another reply on that same discussion or really think about what they're going to post in the first place before they do it.
I'd tried to suggest this before but ohwell
Regarding Editing posts. Let's put it this way. It's standard everywhere else but the zone. It works everywhere else. Why should it be everywhere else but the zone? And if you want to not be able to take back what's said, how about a difference between edits link?
That's an intriguing idea. Maybe that'd solve much of the problem if, say, there was a link to view the original post.
My God we must have virtually unlimmitted space around here.
What if I want to edit my edited post? Where does it stop? And what if I want to edit that edited post? and... Jesus, I already want to edit this post and I haven't even sent it yet.
I can't say about other online communities--I am true to the zone <lol>.
Bob
Hard drives are cheap these days, especially for text. But, I do see the point.
IIRC, the idea behind editing a post is to revise it, because you, for some reason and at the most basic level, choose to disregard the original content you created. So...why should we still see the original, unedited post? Revise—show only the most recent edits—and forget about revisions, 'swhat I say.
Personally I am opposed to editing a Board Post once it has been posted due to the fact that I have noted this feature abused on another set of Boards that allows editing.
Here at The Zone there is the preview feature that can be utilized that was not available at the other boards. I encourage folks to use it as far as checking for spelling errors and the like. Also as has been mentioned a person may re-post to give further clarification in the event that the post they made seems unclear in any way and/or for the need of further explanation.
As much as I have made comments here at The Zone over the years that I would like to delete completely and wish things I said would never had been uttered and feel remorse over, yet still due to the abuse that I have witnessed on another set of boards, like I said, then I am opposed to this feature.
Let me briefly explain... In the event, in particular, if there is some ongoing debate a person or persons may choose to change their mind as it were in mid stream and that is fine, only simply state the case. The problem is when a person gives their comments and then others one by one post giving their thots from a particular comment that has been posted and THEN way later the person or persons go back and edit what they said in the earlier on posting from where others then gave their comments, perhaps completely deleting their comments or changing their minds... then what follows can be an all out chaotic experience and/or certainly one that gives for a Board to make no sense at all to others who log in and can not at all comprehend what is being said. Also what then happens can be a chain reaction of editing so that whoever changed their thots and as others posted giving their comments to what was posted they then go and edit and others in like manner also do so. It can become one great big lousy battlefield.
I do agree that a person who first started a Board may at some point choose to delete that complete board or to close it so no other comments may be made to that particular board. Too often nowadays it seems that there are those who choose to open a Board that has had no commenting for one, two, and in some cases two and half years...
Connie ~ Grace
The more I think about it, the more I like it. I can think of some nasty replies I've made to people that I'd like to delete if possible.
MMMMM, becky. I love it when you get all nasty with your replying. Off to go find those. lol. And, you can't edit me!
CLICK
I totally agree with Grace on this one. I think editing post is so so so wrong.
I, too, have said many things I wish I hadn't said on the boards. But, I have time before I post the message to reflect and not post it, revise it etc. etc. But, once I've sent it, that message should stay in tact.
Otherwise, you could change a previous message thus confusing the discussion of the whole topic.
Bob
take it this way. can you take something back you say in real life? no you can't. i'm against this feature completely.
I think editing would get too confusing, but being abloe too delete your posts wouldn't such a bad thing.
This isn't the real world, this is just an internet website where things are different than seeing people in person.
Well, when I start a topic, and decide I don't want to post it, I simply backspace and delete it while it's still in preview. I've made mistakes on posts, but who hasn't? It just makes the Zone more unique.
How about this guys?
1. Users may edit there post within the first 15 minutes after the post has been made. This would work only if, 15 minutes weren't added on after each new revision. Could the site keep tabs on times etc?
2. People may delete or close topics that they have started only if they haven't received any replys.
John
No way.
Editing posts is a bad idea. If you are going to edit them, do it before you press the "post reply" button. If it's fifteen minutes, then some will want thirty minutes, ...
Secondly, deleting posts is also a bad idea. It's kind of like sensorship. Once again, if you are going to regret having said something, then don't say it.
I do still think the person who has started a topic should have the ability to close it. Preventing others from bringing up past rants or things that are no longer true.
Just my thoughts.
Bob
Bob,
I think my thoughts on this topic is reasonable. I understand you don't agree with me and there's no hard feelings bud. I figgure the way I'm thinking people wouldn't abuse the priblige and yet those options are there for those that wish to use them.
I further more would like to think that most people aren't boneheads and would udelize this feature responsibly.
John
Sadly, and I know many would agree, most people are boneheads and would abuse the feature.
:)
I'd abuse it just to prove John wrong.
Just kidding.
An honest difference of opinion is uplifting, whereas an argument is destructive.
Bob
I don't know. Most forums use it so it can't be that bad. And also if it would be in the terms that people abusing it they could be banned people would be carefull with it.
At audiogames.net where the feature is available people are encorage to use it because they don't. Instead of adding more to their posts they post multiple posts when they forget to say something. So i didn't see abuse there.
And it also says when a topicks has been edited.
But i can see both sites.
I don't see any reason to put banns on abuse unless the feature gets abused so much that it warrents such an action.
John
In regards to John's post #28 in that we could be allotted 15 minutes after we post to a board to still be enabled to edit said post I would be in agreement as long as no one had made a posting following that board post that was a direct spin off of that post. Perhaps persons could be encouraged to wait at least 15 minutes before a new post is added just as a consideration if the poster were to change his/her mind and desired to edit said post?
The reason for my being in agreement with John on this is that I understand how we not all like to use the preview feature as some of us have had difficulty in using it with posts of a past becoming all in a scramble when the preview feature has been utilized and sometimes it is that as soon as we hit send and re-read what was just sent…well, what can I say except that editing for a brief say 15 minute span would be nice to have.
I will maintain that as far as further editing and going back later to delete individual postings that I am in opposition to. Please note my post #21 above.
Also, Yes, sad to say as has been said, many seem to be boneheads. *!
I do have one exception, and to repeat and this goes along with Bob’s commenting that whomever it is that initially starts an individual Board has the option at some point in time of completely deleting that board as well as locking it at a point in time. I know someone asked a question(in another board) in some respects as to, “Why?” and the reason being is that sometimes a Board is stared and as times and more importantly relationships change folks at times desire to move forward… or as in the case of the Garage Forum, as products that are offered for sale and then sold these would be good candidates of Boards for the originator to delete completely.
Connie
Well, I look at it this way. If any Zoners find a board post or even a whole topic really offensive and out of order, or, they wished they could take back something they said in a post or that someone else said in a particular post, they should be able to delete it. After all, The Zone's supposed to be a really fun, interesting but most importantly, friendly community, but you do get the odd weirdoes on here who may wish to post their offensive and somewhat nasty material on the boards where anyone can read it, so I'm all for just anyone being able to delete anything that they wish to take back what they said or that may cause them offense, one way or another. Just think about it, guys. If necessary, we should just be able to contact Admins if a whole topic needs to be deleted for one reason or another.
Jen.
alright, first, I agree whole-heartedly with the fact, that no one should be allowed to delete board posts. If you've posted something, then we assume that you've already thought of the consequences of posting such a thing. As for editing board posts, we have edited board posts at times, when people have made mistakes such as misspelling a title name, or if they accidently hit the "post reply" button before they finished writing out their thoughts...all they have to do, is write to one of us, or report the particular post they want deleted or modified and we usually take care of it, so long as the post is within reason.
Yeah I've noticed that. I accidently mispelled a word in my topic title and a day later it was fixed. although I looked back and checked at the time I had it spelled right. hmmmm happens when jaws reads wind. sometimes it says wined. oddd!
I agree with those who oppose this idea of being able to delete/modify boards. I mean you can't delete or or go back and modify what you say off the computer in real life, now can you? What's done is done in my opinion.
Actually that'd be kind of odd if that were the case. LOL
This, in my mind, really does give us a good idea of the people who exist here, and how much they may or mayn't think the zone is important in their lives. Let's face it, this is not real life.
Observe other open source forum systems, then observe communitys that use them. Look at posts that have been edited. There is none of the controversy that people seem to think will happen, and none of this "what's said here is said because it is like that in real life" mentality.
If we want the real world, we'd go out in it. Don't ever forget what this place was set up to be. By allowing editing of board posts, it saves the administration a lot of time and effort. If select people who aren't administrators would loosen the hell up, this can work. You guys make me look like a friggen non-existent leader in the projects I head...